A couple days ago, Jason Boyett (author, speaker, writter, blogger, artist, and all around good guy) contacted me and asked if I could respond to a couple of questions in regard to Spencer & Heidi. If you’re unaware of who they might be, feel free to watch any episode of The Hills or more recently I’m a Celebrity: Get Me Out of Here! and you’ll receive a pretty good introduction to their lives.
That being said, I wanted to share some of my responses to the this Article that I was quoted in (which you can read HERE). So, here is my basic response to Jason’s interview questions:
This is in regards to Heidi Montag apparently appearing in the August issue of Playboy:
May I be frank? It doesn’t matter what I think. WWJD? (snark) okay okay, I’ll be more serious.
Look – I don’t know Heidi; I’ve never seen The Hills and have absolutely no reason to watch it… ever. Not even to be “relevant” or even be able to “connect with people.” I did however watch the I’m a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! series opener, watched the now ‘famous’ interview with Al Roker, and stayed up late to watch Late Night with Jimmy Fallon (I lie, I actually DVR’d and watched it the next day). All that to say, I’m coming at this from a fairly innocent and new encounter with Speidi… I don’t know what they’ve done on The Hills, I don’t know where they live, I don’t know where the hills are at on the map… and I’ll be honest – I didn’t even know who Spencer or Heidi were until I watched all this go down!
Now, in response to Heidi and her showing off her body like it’s show & tell at the local JR High. I watched Heidi and observed what she had to say and how she acted on the show I’m a Celebrity: Get me out of here! (BTW who are these so called celebrities? When a majority of the public has to google these people while watching the show, are they really celebrities?? Could they not have put “John and Kate Plus 8” in Costa Rica? Now THAT would have been cool. Back to my point. I saw how Heidi acted on the show and she seemed genuinely sincere… but sincerity hasn’t ever saved anyone to Jesus. Ask the guys from Matthew 7:21-23. I’m not saying she’s isn’t a believer – that’s not my decision, that’s up to Jesus, I’m just saying that I can long for it (salvation) and really mean it, but it doesn’t mean that it’s going to happen – ask Esau (Hebrews 12:17).
This being said, Jimmy Fallon asked Heidi this direct question of “Did Jesus have anything to do with Playboy?” and she said, “it’s all for God.” Okay – just because she’s a professed believer doesn’t entitle her to parade her body which God gave her along with the help of some Doctor around on a magazine so some boy can give himself a massage. I’m just saying. If Heidi were my daughter, and professed to follow Jesus; I’d inform her that we live in the era of fig leaves and she needs to put some clothes on. Besides, we don’t need any more Bathsheba’s – that story never ended well for anyone. My reaction is that my heart breaks… not just for her – but for how many guys whose innocence will be taken away upon viewing her images. My heart breaks.
This is in regards to Speidi acting, well, not very Christianly, and whether or not I (or anyone) could take their faith serious:
From a ‘glass-is-half-empty-and-draining perspective’ – I think they’re full of constipation.
From a ‘glass-is-half-full-and-is-overflowing perspective’ my hope (which is in Christ and not them) is that they really want to follow Christ.
As a College Pastor, I deal with students that do all sorts of things on a variety of levels of idiocy and I must remind them (and myself) that salvation is less and less about declarations we make and more and more about the journey we take. In other words, salvation isn’t a sprint, it’s a marathon. That being said, after watching Speidi on “The Late Show with Jimmy Fallon” I think I sense what took place after Spencer was Baptized. He sincerely felt conviction from the things he’s done and has been doing most of his life… but he isn’t repentant. See, I think we’re too quick to baptize people while they’re convicted, but unwilling to be patient enough to baptize someone upon being repentant. Peter was pretty clear that we should “repent and be baptized” (Acts 2:38); Paul tells us that John the Baptist baptized with a “baptism of repentance” (Acts 19:4). So, just because someone is baptized doesn’t mean they are repentant. It’s of my opinion (oh and of John; see chapter 15) that if someone’s faith is authentic, they’ll be different… in the short time since they’ve been on the radar screen (at least in my life) – we’ve got to give them time to cultivate maturity – right now there’s a lot of idiocy going on. My heart breaks.
This is in regards to whether there is a place for Christian celebrities:
Yes. If there’s room for an arrogant, ego-centric, proud, boastful, lazy hypocrite like me to come to faith, why can’t anyone else? I mean, look at Stephen Baldwin. One of the major things Spencer has said in interviews over and over about Baldwin is that he’s authentic about his faith in Christ. That’s been the better story over this in my opinion – a ‘celeb’ getting it right more than he gets it wrong.
Here’s the danger though, when someone of semi-fame comes to faith, we (the Christian community) are way – and I mean WAY – too quick to place these people on pedestals. We invite them to ‘give a testimony’ or ‘speak to our church’ which in the end makes their fall seem all that more hard to swallow (ask Carrie Prejean and the Dove awards). I mean honestly – stop expecting these “Christian celebrities” to be perfect. I mean, we don’t expect used car salesmen to be perfect or the mechanic to be perfect, so why should we expect them to be perfect? I’m not perfect. Jesus was perfect… he came to save us regardless whether we’re a celeb or a bum… he came to save both (Luke 19:10).
In the end I really don’t care which celeb professes faith – mostly because I don’t interact with them on a daily basis. I mean I care if they’re saved, I just don’t pay that much attention to it nor do I get a spiritual buzz from hearing someone is/isn’t. What excites me is having coffee with Bud, my 74 yr old mentor at my church, and watching him witness to our barista. What excites me is helping out the people in the apt. complex our students go to ever week caring about the forgotten. What excites me is talking to students who are for the first time realizing they’re faith can be their own. What excites me is inoculating sheep in the mountains of North Africa with no strings attached – just simply wanting to help their living conditions. What excites me is sending money to give heart surgeries for children in Iraq who desperately need it (preemptivelove.org). Those things excite me – not another celeb claiming faith… give us all time – this race is a race of endurance, not of declarations.
All in all, I’m really aprreciative that Jason Boyett would ask me to be part of this process.
You can read Boyett – HERE
You can read the article – HERE.